How Much Fun
We have so many things in the queue … so many things lined up to try, that it gets a little overwhelming. The exact sequence of things gets a lot of discussion and seems to be updated on an almost hourly basis.
We have:
1. Compare the charged ELROD powercord that has been on the Nordost ViDar cable burner to a charged ELROD that has not been on the burner – i.e. How does the ViDar affect performance? We already did the cold (uncharged) Vidar’ed ELROD compared to the hot (charged) un-ViDar’ed ELROD. [Note, ELRODs take about 3 days or so to charge up their capacitors]. While this was ijntersting, and we will report on it, not being the brightest bears in the woods, we finally realized that this was kind of confusing [I bet you are confused, too, by now :-)], overloading the charged versus uncharged test with the Vidar’ed versus un-Vidar’ed test.
I said it was fun. But it also requires a degree in Research Methods… apparently.
2. Compare the Kegon Balanced with the old high-gain Kegons. We can do this on the Kharma Mini Exquisites – which we anticipate will show that 1) … well, let’s not make any predictions [see, I’m getting smarter. Maybe there is hope…]. But the Kharma is actually quite hard to drive, especially the bass – especially if you want that big open Kharma sound [Kharmas always sound exciting and delicious and big, but not always that room pressurizing wrap-around that many people crave like hot butter on potatoes].
3. Compare the Nordost ODIN speaker cable to the Jorma Design PRIME speaker cable on the Marten Coltrane Supremes. This will be… well, there may not be a winner. I expect the ODIN to be more dynamic, which the Supremes love, and the PRIME to be more detailed, which the Supremes love. But for all I know I am getting it exactly backwards. That’s what shootouts are for. Proving it one way or another [at least with respect to the equipment we have here – we do try to perform part of a shootout on a completely different system to make sure that out results more or less reflect the general case].
4. Compare the Kharma Mini Exquisites to the Audio Note SEC High Efficiency Signature speakers. OK, yes, completely different… but both are 2-ways and, well they were the same price but now the Minis are $60K [seen the dollar lately?] and, well the AN speakers are… we’ll know when Neli gets the price list out [uh, oh, she’s gonna smack me when she reads this… I am already bracing for the impact… hurry up and finish this so I can delete it before she sees it :-)]. I expect the Kharmas to be more detailed and the AN more dynamic. Duh. AN is almost horn-like and Kharma has that legendary midrange resolution. But what else will we hear?
5. Compare the M1 phono stage to the Lamm LP2 phono preamplifier. OK, Neli thinks this test is stupid too… but I want to hear the difference in character between the two. We’ve had a number of other inexpensive and expensive phono stages in here, so this is not all THAT outrageous.
6. Compare the old EMM Labs CDSA to the new one with the upgraded transport and feet. We should be getting close to getting 700 hours on the new CDSA soon now, one would think [I don;t have a little 700 hours cooking timer on it or anything].
7. Oh yeah, we still have to do the interconnect shootout where the signal is quite large, between the preamp and the amp. We actually point to a system periodically and say ‘oh, this would be a convenient time and configuration to perform the aforementioned test’ [well, we don’t use the word ‘aforementioned’ in casual conversation, sorry]. But do we sit down and do the shootout? Noooooooo. It does take about 6 or 7 hours of focused concentrated listening, so it is hard to find the time. But soon….
8. We want to compare the high-power ELROD powercords to the low-powered ones on the Lamm ML2.1. At what point to low-powered amps draw high-power? Just what IS the difference in sound between the two?
9. I am sure there is a 9. And 10….
Hi Mike and Neli,
So what are you doing in your spare time? LOL
The two of you have a lot going on! I’m curious how your Elrod power cable burn in test turns out, (one with and one without the Nordost Vi Dar) ?
I’m also curious to see how the Meitner CDSA with new transport and feet sounds compared to the old one.
If you need an old CDSA maybe I could bring mine up. I know Neli said there was a guy in Longmount that has one that you were going to use. So if you need an old one to compare, let me know.
I enjoy your blog. Thanks
Hi Steve!
Oops, yesterday got away from us. We rebuilt our consulting website yesterday. The blog there still looks like poop – but….
So we didn’t get to the ELROD shootout (doh!) and today we had an audition of the Kharmas… [we are trying to help someone sell their 1 year old 3.2 speakers].
Thanks so much for offering to bring up the CDSA! I think we may be taking you up on your kindness – the Longmont gentleman is just going to order the new transport site unheard – so you better start resting up, these shootouts are hard work… Wiggle the left ear. Now wiggle the right… ๐
Take care,
Mike.
Hi Mike and Neli,
I can bring up the CDSA the weekends I don’t have my kids. That is if I can get up your driveway this time of year? ๐
Let me know when your ready and we can work out a day. But I better rest up for it. ๐
Should be fun!
Mike,
Just a note on #6: The AN SEC Signatures are not (technically) high efficiency (models). They have the ALNICO magnets and there is no HE ALNICO woofer (Yet). The SEC Sigs are 95.5dB/w/m sensitive whereas the HE models are 97.8.
Best,
Dave
Oops – I meant #4. Sorry.
Dave
Hi,
#3= The Prime you mention is more detailed than the Odin. Is that right , always thought it to be the other way around.
Hi Arshad,
We haven’t performed that shootout, so don’t know for sure, but my expectations, for what they are worth, are that the Odin SPEAKER cable is way more open and dynamic, but not that much more detailed, than the Valhalla speaker cable, [whereas the Odin INTERCONNECT is in every way leagues beyond all other cables – especially in deserving systems] and the Jorma PRIME speaker cable is very much more detailed and clear, but not much more dynamic and open than the Jorma No.1. [The No. 1 and Valhalla are very much at the same level with respect to many attributes].
Hope that helps explain my scribblings a little. We need to do that shootout!
Thanks,
Mike
Hi Mike,
The Nordost power cord is on sale in the UK. Any news on it. http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20Power%20Cords.htm
Best,
Arshad
Hiya Mike,
I should have mentioned specifically in the above post that the Nordost Odin power cord is on sale at the UK.
Cheers,
Arshad
Hi Arshad,
For some reason I only wrote this post in my head on May 11th. Age, old age… no wait. Neli, I blame it on Neli. ๐
The ODIN power cord was announced here about two weeks ago… about two days before your post! We are trying to rearrange our purchases here to get a couple in so we can throw them on a couple of amps.
But you know how it is… The list of things we want to get is never shorter than our arms ๐
It is about $11K for a 4 foot cord here in the land of $4/gallon gasoline.
Take care,
Mike
Age old age… dont blame Neli she is a dear !!!!
Cheers,
Arshad