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THE AUDIO AERO PRESTIGE VRS THE AUDIO AERO CAPITOLE

The Prestige is better sounding than the Capitole.

What a relief.

You know, we really like the Capitole (especially me). So much of the competition that is supposed to be ‘better’ sound like a lot of digititus to me: heavy on the detail, light on the music.

But the Prestige had sounded pretty darn good at CES… but that was over a year and a half ago. And there had been rumours that they had made some changes since then…

But, no, all is OK. This thing really sounds pretty good.

In comparison with the Capitole:

A tighter denser soundfield. More solidity. More coherence. More transparency. More real.

More detail but NOT at the expense of the music.

More midi and micro-dynamics. About the same macro-dynamics – which has always been one of the premiere features of the Capitole.

Warmth is about the same, … well, maybe a little less. Still has that analog-like romantic tinge to it.

Tighter in the bass. Much. Much more detail. Which is a good thing… and it was one of the few weaknesses of the Capitole that its bass did not have enough detail for some people, but….Actually I am hoping and anticipating that the bass loosens up a little more over time (the Capitole took awhile too, about 6 weeks or so). Just a little. There is this balance – between detail and control in the bass yet a natural looseness that makes it all sound real – can’t describe it, but you know it when you hear it (the Audio Note U.K. Kegons amplifiers got it in spades).

Just one compaint.

Why do all these SACD players have to be so SLOW? Yes, they have to scan the disc dozens of times to determine which kind of redbook format the CD is recorded in, and then to determine if it is also an SACD. But, geez.

No, it is only marginally slower than the Meitner. And not as bad as the Sony SCD-1 as I remember it. So it is not unusually slow. What IS unusual is for the person putting in the CD (for exmaple, me!) to be of the patient, I’ve got 5 to 10 seconds to spare, variety of audiophile.

So, ***drum roll please*** …

Presenting the New World Champion of the Single Box Players (and it even plays SACD)….. The Audio Aero Prestige.

I like it.

GREAT, BUT IN THE WAY

Spent the last few days cleaning out the ‘closet’ of older cables and equipment that we really aren’t using and putting it up for sale. So far its mostly been Nordost cables,

Valhalla speaker cable in its wooden case

but we have some older Shunyata speaker cables and interconnects, a used Audio Note M1 Phono preamplifier and CD2.1x player, Sonus Faber Extrema speakers, a ‘B’ stock Denon 3910, an Edge NL12 amplifier and Signature One preamplifier,…

and I’m sure there’s more, but…

I justknow we are not the only packrats out there… its amazing how all this stuff starts piling up, filing every crevice and cranny…

I just know we can’t be the only ones…

AUDIO AERO PRESTIGE OCCUPIES OLD CAPITOLE LOCATION

As we mentioned last time, we decided to move the Audio Aero Prestige CD/SACD Player downstairs and put it on the Sound Lab U1 system in place of the Audio Aero Capitole.

The Prestige in the equipment rack
The equipment rack with the Prestige on the bottom shelf (hey, at least this one is a front-loader) topped by the Brinkmann Balance and Walker Proscenium Gold turntables. We run the turntables through the linestage built into the Prestige (and previously the Audio Aero Capitole).

The Prestige in the equipment rack
A closeup of the Prestige with HRS damping plate on top.

The Prestige in the equipment rack
Underneath the Prestige, with HRS triple-tall Nimbus feet – notive the black diamond racing cones are still attached.

The Prestige remote control
The new solid metal, heavy weight, remote control for the Prestige.

The Prestige remote control
A close up of the remote control.

The Prestige  remote control
A close up of the remote control logo.

Next… sonics. Hint, its a across the board improvement compared to the Capitole, and this from an avowed Capitole lover, me.

THE AUDIO AERO PRESTIGE vrs. THE EMMLABS/MEITNER CDSD/DCC2

With the caveat that the Meitner is 50% more expensive than the Prestige, we will try to provide some illumination on our impressions of the differences and similarities of these two CD/SACD players… both with built-in linestages.

The Prestige is still not quite broken in but it does have about 600 hours on it – and the Meitner CDSD tranport has an upgrade which we have not had here yet. But I think we can say something about their relative sonic attributes.

In comparison with the Meitner the Prestige has about the same soundstaging and imaging capabilities, though perhaps a little higher noise floor and a little less detail – as one might expect from a tube output stage – lending to a little bit of fog between the musicians in the sound field.

In some sense the Prestige is more enjoyable to listen to, presenting the music with an enthusiastic and optimistic attitude, with a slight exaggeration of various tonalities lending it an ‘analog warmth’. This seems to me to be much more so than the Capitole, which had an ‘analog-like’, somewhat accentuated, macro dynamic attack but not so much of the wonderful micro-dynamic attack and inner warmth of the Prestige… at least that’s what I am hearing, anyway.

The way I think of it is that the Prestige sounds like the way music sounds after a half (YMMV) glass of wine. The Meitner sounds like the music does when stone-cold sober.

The Meitner sounds real, like it really sounded like in the studio. It is a wayback machine with frequently astonishing capabilities – like having the awesome privilege of having a special ticket to attend, in person, the recording sessions of your favorite music.

And for those who have not heard the Meitner and hear something completely different than what I hear when listening to live sound, whether in a studio or elsewhere – this is not the overly etched, harsh, in-your-face dante-reality of the accuracy-must-mean-extreme-exaggeration-of-treble-attack-and-decay-so-it-sounds-like-delta-function-hell situation here. This is the ‘you are there, believe it or not, this is what the musicians cum studio engineer actually sounded like’ show.

The Prestige sounds like music, like the way music is supposed to sound. Enjoyable, a smile and toe-tapping required (in this toe-tapper sense I felt it was better than the Meitner – but we have yet to try the HRS Nimbus trick on the DCC2, so stay tuned), beautiful with all the detail and coherency and clarity that our minds want, along with all the juice that our hearts want.

So, really, it is up to each of us to choose our poison, or, actually, to choose our preferred elixir.

Next: The Audio Aero Prestige vrs the Audio Aero Capitole.

Party on, Garth!

AUDIO AERO PRESTIGE NOW UP ON HRS 'NIMBUS' FEET

Before we get to the comparisons…

We put the Prestige up on the HRS Nimbus ”feet’ which helped dial in the Prestige as it was sitting on the HRS M3 Isolation Base.

Audio Aero Prestige up on Nibuses
Here is the Prestige up with the 3 black diamond racing cones that come with the Prestige as their standard feet lying in front of the Prestige.

Audio Aero Prestige up on Nibuses
More pictures of the Prestige and the HRS Nimbuses, which in this picture were put under the place where the Black Diamond Racing cones usually go, abd you can see that the screws that stick out and screw into the cones are now sticking into the Nimbuses.

We changed this in the current configuration to put the Nimbuses in a configuration so that they would not get stuck… But we haven’t done a sonic comparison to determine any differences besides the aesthetic.

Audio Aero Prestige up on Nibuses

Audio Aero Prestige up on Nibuses

Audio Note Kegons also up on Nibuses
The Audio Note Kegons are also up on Nimbuses…

Audio Areo Prestige panel left side
Just an FYI, here are the controls on the left side control panel of the Prestige

Audio Areo Prestige panel right side
And on the right side…

Sonically, this improved the clarity, lowered the noise floor tremendously, and made the Prestige competitive with the Meitner, albeit with an entirely different sonic flavor. More on the comparison next, and as we moved the Prestige downstairs in preperation for the weekend’s (and Monday’s (today)) guests, replacing the Audio Aero Capitole with the Prestige in the SoundLab U1 / EDGE system, we can now also report at some length on the differences we hear between the Capitole and the Prestige.

PUTTING HRS 'FEET' UNDER THE EDGE REFERENCE AMPS

OK, we could / should really get some custom HRS (Harmonic Resolution Systems… now you know why everybody abbreviates their name :-)) amp stands for the big 220(!) lb EDGE NL Reference ‘pyramid’ amplifiers… But we got these really cool Rix Rax Outpost amp stands and we want to use them. The problem is the Outputs do not have all that much intrinsic vibration control (none except for spikes and the nearly 2 inch think maple tops).

What to do, what to do.

Kind of by accident, we tried putting HRS Nimbus Coupler’s underneath the Ref’s feet at the RMAF 2005 show – and lo and behold it helped even out the frequency response in the hotel room very nicely. In that situation the Ref’s were on the carpet because we did not bring down the big amp stands to the show – there is only so much room, you know, in a minivan and station wagon – when you’re full, your’re full.

So, the inspiration struck once more and we decided to try them again, only this time with the Nimbus Spacers too (we did not bring the Spacers with us to the show… why, because at the time we couldn’t find them.

OK, OK, everybody raise their hand who has so much audio… equipment and tweaks… that half the time they can’t find what they are looking for when they need it. Thought so.

HRS Nimbus
Here we see two Nimbus Coupler’s and one (double height) Nimbus Spacer

HRS Nimbus
Here they are in context to a standard (good) CD.

HRS Nimbus
Here is the big EDGE amp

HRS Nimbus
Here is a Nimbus (Spacer plus two Couplers) under one of the feet. No it isn’t exactly centered. You want to liff this 220lb thing to try to get that last 1/32 of an inch? Not me either.

HRS Nimbus
Here is another picture of the HRS Nimbus’es under the feet. Notice the dust under the amp that the added height now reveals. Everyone knows half the fun of having all this beautiful equipment is dusting and keeping it clean, right? Right?

Hurrumph. And it is not as if we can trust anyone else to clean it either. What a predicament. What a predicament.

Next … the Effect of Dust Bunnies on Soundstaging….

Oh, and the sound here with the Nimbus’ under the EDGE NL Reference feet is the same we experienced at the show – a more even treatment of the frequency spectrum, removing some of the edge and glare we were experiencing with bad recordings, especially DVD video.

THE PRESTIGE PLAYER…. STILL BREAKING IN (SIGH)

Yeah, yeah, everyone wants to know how it sounds and how it compares to the Meitner…

So do we!

You can really tell it is still breaking in because everyday it sounds… different from the day before. One day is is bright. The next it is over-damped. Tomorrow… ?

And, like everyone else, there is some trepedation on our part that it will get ‘stuck’ with of these abnormal personailities and be done breaking in, stuck in a less-than-optimal ‘gear’.

But the Capitole takes about 6 weeks before it settles down (usually, but sometimes it seems to break in much more quickly (!?)) so we are trying to be patient.

And the sound is converging towards something very… I would say analog. It doesn’t have the detail of an LP, of course (nothing digital has that much resolution, …so far, anyway), but there is this feeling, this kind of warmth that is not like tubes and not like anything else but vinyl. I know, it is kind of weird – but the Capitole was somewhat like this, at least dynamicaly, and the Prestige seems like it is following in its footsteps – but more so…

At least today it does.

AUDIO AERO PRESTIGE MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIERS

We have a pair of the yummy Audio Aero Prestige monoblock amplifers here on loan. We’ve had their baby brother, the Audio Aero Capitole 50 watt stereo amplifier here for a few years and loved it – so we have high-expectations for these puppies.

Here are some pictures…

Audio Aero Prestige amplifiers

Audio Aero Prestige amplifiers

Audio Aero Prestige amplifiers

Audio Aero Prestige amplifiers

Audio Aero Prestige amplifiers

More on how they sound later (they are however, largely unbroken-in, and we need to fit them in between auditions… too many things breaking in at once makes for not-so-nice listening sessions)….

Meanwhile the Prestige SACD/CD player in continuing to break-in quite nicely.

THE AUDIO NOTE CDT3 THREE TRANSPORT (PROTOTYPE)

We got this in last week. Still breaking in… and just a prototype, but right away it sounds better in almost every way than our older CDT TWO – much more engaging and of a whole – and we are eagerly waiting to see how breaking in improves the sound and just how far it leaves our older (discontinued) CDT TWO in the dust…(!) Dontja just love the high-end?

Some pictures:

CDT Three Faceplate
In order to preserve the beauty of the transport for the final owner, we are leavng the protective plastic over the display.

CDT Three, side by side with CDT Two
Side-by-side with the older CDT TWO

CDT Three rear panel
The CDT THREE rear panel.

THE NEW AUDIO AERO PRESTIGE SACD/CD PLAYER

Got the new player in… was it yesterday?

Here are some pics:

Prestige Top
The player is sitting on an HRS Isolation Base and has a HRS damping plate on top.

Prestige Front
You can see here that the Prestige, like the Audio Aero Capitole, comes with three Black Diamond Racing Cone feet, two ‘4’s and one ‘3’.

Prestige Back
The Prestige has a built-in preamplifier, also like the Capitole. The powercord is a Shunyata Anaconda Vx, the interconnects are the Stealth INDRA.

Our first impressions are very favorable. Our expectations were low, switching from the warm Meitner, which had been on for a week or two since the show, and has been broke-in in for a year now, to a cold Prestige with no time on it . But we were very pleased… out of the box, CDs were actually very enjoyable – as we couldn’t help but play about 10 different CDs to check it out (naw, just like most people, we can’t stand waiting until the player is warmed up and broke-in in more than a few hours like we are all supposed to….).

Burn(in) baby, burn(in)!