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CEDIA 2007 Day 1 Photos

Still no broadband from comcast. Maybe tomorrow. So no large juicy pictures tonight… but here are some nice little tasty ones.

I thought there were more people this year, but after covering more of the show floor, there were strange concentrations of crowds [mostly congregating right in front of the booth I want to photograph, of course:-)], so perhaps it is only about the same. Thursday was kinda slow last year, so we’ll see.


The McIntosh M110 turntable. I think this is new – at least I have never seen one before… so it is new to me!


Another photo… the platter glows with a purple-ish blue-ish tint – which this photo tried to capture. Static display only… like most things at CEDIA… so do not know how it sounds.


Savant had a few of their innovative user interfaces on display. This was a 40 inch LCD touch panel that you could use your finger to tap on or drag around the screen in order to organize and play your collection of movies and music.

Most of their LCDs aren’t this big, they had a number that were around 8 to 12 inches.


Then again, they had this coffee table sized.. coffee table… that was the screen. Not sure what happens when you place your beer on a song when you are watching a movie… but it is so cool! No more remotes on the table, the table IS the remote.


The new Sonus Faber ‘Elipsa’ speaker. THE front.


THE rear. Serial #00001.


Finally, we got some photos of the new Nordost ODIN interconnect. Note the signature decorative wooden block.


It is quite a bit thicker than their Valhalla interconnects.


And the Odin braiding is different, more regular, and appears tighter.


More Odin’y eye candy


And more…

A lot of the show looks just like last year (and CES this January). Kind of dissapointing. But, like the stuff in this post, there are some new goodies. And, you know us, we like the goodies ๐Ÿ™‚

Lightning Strikes…

… or 42.6 Kbps on the dialup connection… whoo hoo!

Well, we got hit by lightning late yesterday afternoon. Well, not us, thankfully, but our house.

It came and smacked the front of the house, about 20 feet from the window I was sitting at, at one of the corners of our hexagon-ish walls, came in and attacked a light fixture in our hallway and ran down the ground into listening room two, melting the ground and ‘hot’ wires together, and blew out the light switches across the room so that 30 feet away the Kharmas now have light-switch-pieces in front of them.

It looks like we lost 4 TVs, the ovens, Neli’s computer ๐Ÿ™ , my computer’s networking, the Nordost Vidar cable burner, ….

We also lost cable and phone, though the phone is now working (the 4 wires just melted at the box outside so it was an easy fix).

The Coltrane Supreme system works, the small Audio Note system was unplugged, the rack with the Walker and M10 was unplugged. The rest – well, I am a little trepidatious about testing it all out – but Neli is game…

We were lucky. In a lot of ways.

None of the systems were ‘on’ – because we’ve been getting so many lightning storms this week, we got tired of turning things off and on and off and on. But we had grown lax, just turning things off, not unplugging them like we usually do. Oops.

Funny, this lightning storm gave little or no warning. Usually the thunder gets louder and Louder and LOUDER until we can’t stand the suspense and turn everything off and unplug it.

This time, it was like nothing… distant rumbles… BLAM! and then it was over.

So anyway, cable is out (i.e. broadband network connectivity). Neither of our main computers can talk to the net anymore, even if the cable was working. I am typing this on our ‘out-of-town show reporting laptop’, which is OK but not sufficient for a whole show report. We got a Mac somewhere – but that’ll be worse (no photoshop on it, for one, and an even smaller keyboard).

And guess what? We have a show tomorrow. CEDIA 2007.

So, the plan is to transfer photos to my main computer, process them, the put them on DVD and transfer them to this laptop, which hopefully will upload them over the cable, that will be working sometime soon, we hope.

Well, I guess that there will be fewer pictures during the show and until we get computers that are both capable of processing several gigabytes of JPEGs …and … connecting to the net.

Maybe we’ll also post a few photos of the smoked switches and boards hanging off the side of the house – but I think you all understand now why there aren’t any in THIS post.

But seriously, we were lucky. Especially me, who was sitting in the symetrical location in the window across from the strike. And the house did not catch fire. And the circuit breaker blew after the first leg of the circuit melted, trapping the major damage to the hallway circuit. All of the equipment was off, (except the Vidar) and lots unplugged.

So, fingers crossed, hopefully the rest of the gear is AOK.

Kind of messes with your head, this stuff does…

Anway, next post: CEDIA 2007!

Jorma 'Prime', Soundlabs, and more Marten Coltrane Supremes


Kharma Mini Exquisite speakers on Audio Note Ongaku, driven by Meitner CDSA CD / SACD player, 100% cabled by Jorma Design Prime cables.

Very small, very exquisite system.

Upstairs we had the player across the room, so always connected it to the system using he 10m Valhalla interconnects. So this was the first time we heard the Kharma speakers, and later the Marten Coltrane speakers, in a 100% Jorma Prime system.

Yummy.

Sonically, it was just more of what we heard upstairs, taken to a higher level. Specifically, more PRESENCE. Voices were just THERE. Bass seemed even tighter as well, though that might be the smaller room.


The chairs are turned away so that people can hear the Soundlab system in this photo.

Later, we put the Martin ‘Coltrane’ speakers in this system. First time we heard the Ongaku on the Coltranes. Compared to the Kegons, the Ongaku seems to control different frequencies, … differently. It is sweeter than the Kegons – but not sweet in the sense of warm, but perhaps in the sense of more color, and a better sense of the ‘right’ note decay.

The Kharma and Marten are worlds apart in this kind of uber-system, and, to generalize, the Marten in a more neutral speaker, more even top to bottom, soundstage behind the speakers, and the Kharma is a more exuberant speaker, very high-resolution in the mids and upper mids, soundstage in front of the speakers, and probably can’t be beat on vocals.

Also, the Kharmas prefer larger rooms and the Coltranes smaller.

Again, just generalizing.


The soundlabs!

Finally, the SoundLabs get a chance to breathe…. Nice to have them back out from behind the Coltrane Supremes…


And speaking of the Supremes… here we see them all nicely polished up by Neli.


The aesthetic of these speakers, tall vertical, wooden, in this room with its tall vertical wooden beams – is striking now that we are getting used to the whole idea that they are FINALLY up here.

Acoustic Zen Adagio loudspeaker on Kharma amp and Audio Aero Prestige player

After going through several system configurations, this one was perhaps our favorite, especially of those with speakers driven by solid-state amplifiers.

Adagio speakers on Kharma amps

The Adagios, in this configuration, in this room (that wall behind the speakers is not symmetrical and not flat…) seemed to prefer the more aggressive Kharma digital amp than the more powerful, more laid back, and more expensive EDGE amps. It helped wake them up, so to speak.

Adagio speakers on Kharma amps

All Nordost Valhalla cabling. Yeah, each cable cost more than the speakers… but we save money using the Office Depot power strip, see? ๐Ÿ™‚

But in the end, this is a fairly reasonably priced system at about $25K + cables.

Adagio speakers on Kharma amps

No, these speakers don’t sound as tight and controlled and have the finesse of the $45-$50K Kharma Mini Exquisite and Marten Coltrane speakers… which just seems to depress our visitors who are auditioning the Adagios.

Maybe we should just hide them next time?

We already go through the ‘You really don’t want to hear these. You’ll be spoiled and will never be able to go back”. Doesn’t work, though.

And we really LIKE the Adagios… what other speaker can you play (successfully) rock & roll AND opera on in this price range? Like none, man.

CEDIA 2007

Well, CEDIA is right around the corner – both physically and time-wise, it being next Thursday – Sunday.

Got my $50(!) tickets – well, I paid for them several weeks ago and I am getting their SPAM machine emails – so I think that means it is a go.

Planning of taking lots of photos, and putting them up on this ole website, along with commentary.

But not expecting much in the way of quality sound at the main conference – but perhaps at T.H.E. SHOW next door?

We’ll see…..

If I only had a maid

[or butler, we are a equal opportunity exploiter]

Sung to the tune of ‘If I only had a brain’ from the Wizard of OZ – one of my mostest favorite songs

If we only had a maid,
We’d wile away the hours,
Relaxin’ with our feet up,
As they carried the [4 speaker, 150-250lb] Supremes.

Up and down the stairs,
They’d move the equipment,
And, why not, cable it up too,
While we laid around and snoozed.

And when the FedEx arrives,
and heavy packages do appear,
We can sigh and pop in a CD,
As they 45 steps do the lugging,
And we open another beer.

If we only had a maid,
cabling would be such a cinch,
this way, that way, and back again,
and changing the equipment,
would be no a sweating,
If we only had a maid.

A dusting and a vacuuming,
Around the delicate equipment,
would be no problem for our maid,
So no sneezing and no fingerprints,
will distract us from our music,
If we only had a maid.

And the CDs and LPs,
would all be so clean,
So organized and alphabetical,
If we only had a maid.

And when a lightning comes a striking,
They assure equipment is unplugged,
And when the storm leaves just five minutes later,
The equipment they would quickly power back up,
If we only had a maid.

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Needs work…

And we do have a maid. For the husband they are often called a ‘wife’. And for the wife’ they are a ‘husband’. ๐Ÿ™‚ ?

Finally, the Coltrane Supremes are upstairs

Took us long enough, huh?

Well, we had an excuse, with the huge horn speakers hogging all the space up until May.

Then Neli’s sorry excuse for a husband was under orders not to lift anything heavier than 25 – 35 lbs. for 6 weeks – which we determined actually did rule out 300 lb bass towers.

And then we had audition after audition – and everyone really loved the Audio Note Ongaku on the Kharma Mini Exquisites with the Jorma Prime cable. – so we were hesitant messing with perfecttion [but this system will be downstairs, so we’ll see how much the size of the room contributed to the sound – it IS a small system, after all]

We had some concern – and numerous, numerous, numerous to the point of ridiculousness – discussions about how to get the speakers up to the main room. How to wrap them, ho wmany layers, how dirty the blankets could be, using a hand-truck, going outside instead of up the stairs, I was about to die with all this talking – what is WRONG with me that I was the one who started the conversation half the time?

Here is the stairs we carried them up. Neli did great carrying the top of the speaker up, and we did take off the 40lb or so spiked feet – but otherwise we ‘just did it’, like Nike keeps telling us to do, though at least with the second bass tower, we wrapped the banister with towels to prevent any ‘accidents’ – which luckily we didn”t have (whew! and yippee!).


We put the EDGE Reference amps on the main towers (800 watts on top, and the built in 2000 watts on the bottom – these boys go LOUD – so far I haven’t turned it up above -32 on the Capitole CD player – which is already over 100dB). Well, we wanted to wake up the speakers and this should do it.

Positioning still sucks.

And now starts the long journey to finding the magical combo of components that will make these speakers sing the way we know they can. This currently ain’t it, not the least reason of which is that the Capitole player needs vibration control bad – there is some serious BASS going on and it is just sitting on the Black Diamond Racing cones, right there next to the speakers, poor thing.

Kharma Mini Exquisites, Audio Note Ongaku, and Jorma Design Prime

I hesitated a long time to write this post. After all, I first thought that the Audio Note just did not drive Kharma very well, especially when the Kegon amplifiers just did not drive the Kharmas to distraction – which they had with every other speaker we had tried them with.

With the Audio Note Ongaku, the Minis were well driven, surprise! and the Minis were able to fill up our large room with sound [more surprise!] , including bass, very nicely thank you. In fact, it was the best we had ever heard the Mini Exquisites sound.

Even though many people who heard this system thought it was the best system we had here, for their taste, [as some did with the AN SEC Silver Sig speakers in this system previously], some of our test tracks, like the 1st cut on the SACD version of Santana’s Abraxus – just did not lite our fire like they had with the previous, Very Large reference speakers we had in our main room.

Then Neli put the Jorma Design ‘Prime’ speaker cables on the system replacing the Valhalla [No, we havn’t heard the Odin yet… tick tock tick tock…]. Usually these cables add detail and ambiance and coherence – all those ‘cable-ish’ things – which these did again. But…

They seem to also now let through more dynamics, like there is more power coming from the amps. The sound wave front is much more bloomier, larger (and it was pretty big before) – the ‘color’ of these cables, orange-ish in my mind – just ADDED to the color of the Ongaku and Kharmas, both exemplary examples of what controlled-color-machines should be themselves.

With the Meitner CDSD/DCC2 digital and 10m Valhalla interconnects as source – the system was given a very pure signal.

Anyway, this is the first system where the sound rivals that of the previous system with those Very Large [Acapella Triolons] speakers… and in such a small package, too!

The soundstage is as wide and about as tall as the 7 foot speakers [except when those other speakers put the soundstage up in the rafters, which it did if you were sitting low in the listening chair] – but more firmly fixed in place.

The resolution is better – something for which the Kharmas have few peers.

The color is ‘better’, which is to say that there is more of it [in general we like a neutral sound, but not too neutral, and this lies pleasantly within our preferences].

The wrap-around sound is better – don’t know why that would be… maybe the Ongakus which we never tried on the previous setup.

The bass is, of course, not has powerful (compared to 8 10 inch woofers, surprise) but it is satisfying enough that we only miss it sometimes [and can you say… ‘Midi’ Exquisites … with their 4 large woofers? I knew you could :-)]

The dynamics is not the same, compared to that of the 30 inch and 20 inch horms – but it is only in very loud complex passages that it becomes a fault. The punchiness of the amp, and the broadband nature of the Prime cables, seems to make up a lot of ground with respect to the difference in efficiencies.

The only nit I have is that there is the slightest reticence in the mid bass somewhere – and we do not know if this is a characteristic of the speaker, speaker-amp combo, or perhaps lack of adequate vibration control on the source equipment…

So anyway – this is cool. We’ve had a number of people up here who are picky [you know, EVERYbody is picky – what is with that? :-)] and they seem to agree that this ain’t too bad sounding. So we aren’t going insane. Too much.

What does it mean that one can get much of the benefit of large efficient speakers with a properly driven small speakers [add a subwoofer for that lowest octave, which no speaker can do anyway unless it is the Marten Coltran Supremes – which will be up here presently]?

It might mean that there is a conservation of system cost – you spend it here or ya gotta spend it there – move the money from speakers to amp and cables. But this isn’t exactly true, as expensive speakers needed expensive equipment as well.

It might mean that, given money, you can chose to have a few constraints, like being able to see out the windows – and still have world-class sound.

Or it might just mean that Neli and Mike just got lucky and that there is no deep meaning here at all.

Yeah, that is probably it.

Oh well, party on dudes and dudettes.

P.S. Here we have Neli’s solution to holding up the Elrod power cord going into the Ongaku. Too bad I tore up my Harry Potter box from Amazon in a rush to get the latest book out – we could of used it instead to add a little ‘magic’ to the system… ๐Ÿ˜‰

Are CDs over-priced compared to DVDs?

We’ve been having this … discussion [funny how more and more discussions include phrases like ‘nuts’ (this is a family blog), ‘I married you why?’, and ‘OK, ask people on the Blog what THEY think’] about whether CDS *SHOULD* be priced at the same price as DVDs, [and with pre-viewed DVDs being so plentiful, more like two to four times the price I pay].

*I* say [and I write the blog so I get the first word in :-)] that DVDs are twice as long, have extras, and have video as well as sound. This should make DVDs four times MORE expensive than CDS, and that it is only our beloved recording industry whose monopoly has driven the price of CDs up to ridiculous levels.

*They* say [and Neli is among these sorely misguided people, poor girl] that we listen to CDs over and over again, whereas we only watch movies once or twice. So CDs are worth more because they provide more entertainment in the end. [funny, using this metric, ‘Kind of Blue’ and ‘Star Wars’ should go for $Millions. They are WORTH millions, but that value is spread out amongst the millions of copies people ‘own’ of them].

Anyway, on this blog I may lose this argument ๐Ÿ™‚ But I think in the marketplace, people feel that $19 for a new CD is too much and are voting with their wallets by Not Buying Them. Almost all of us now have bought and made a data CD for ten cents – the rip-off factor is kind of in-our-face.

That said, I heard clips from the newest Steven Stills CD yesterday with cuts from the original CSN tapes. I think I will get ripped off at least one more time ๐Ÿ™‚

Audio Note Ongaku amp on Kharma Mini Exquisite speakers

Well, well, well… it is working a heckuva lot better than anticipated.

Actually, it sounds really excellent.

We are really performing two tests here:

Can the little Kharma fill our large room with sound? Yes.

Can the Ongaku integrated drive the Mini Exquisites. Yes, for the most part.

The highs and mids are extremely lovely. We have not heard the Kharmas sound like this before. The 6C33C tubes on the Lamm ML1 and ML2 amps, and even the 300B on the audio Note Kegons, just do not have the amazingly seductive quality of the 211 tube on the Ongaku. Combined with the Kharma’s natural seductive qualities, along with its very, very high resolution in these frequencies – it is just a joy to listen to.

As for the bass – the bass is present – and satisfactory. Enough to not take away from the rest of the frequencies. But seriously, bass is not why a person has these littler Kharmas nor a tube amp. So I would give it a ‘B’ for bass. An A+ for the rest.

Finally – there is some slight congestion during very loud, complex passages… this started to diminish over time, so perhaps the amps were still warming up from when we turned them off to hook them up. We’ll hear how far things have improved in a few days….

The upstream components… mostly using the Emmlabs CDSD/ DCC2 combo, with the Audio Aero Capitole stepping in for comparison purposes.