HP reference to EMM Labs in TAS

Specifically, the reference to the, I quote “Meitner’s new Special Edition SDCD and DAE components (which had newly arrived and are his ‘statement’ versions of multichannel DSD playback gear)” in this months TAS [November 2008] ….. is actually a CDSD SE transport and DAC6e SE.

It is NOT the new TSD1 and DAC2 and it is NOT some mystical, mythical pre-release super-powered unannounced digital gear either.

We got a number of questions about these quotes in TAS over the last few months.

Also glad to read in the same paragraph that a blu-ray disc in the $239.48 Sony BDP-S300 DVD player [which is the cheap knockoff of my BDP-S1, which doesn’t image as well as the little DAC in my DELL PC – but does have fuller bass], doesn’t sound as good as SACD in the SE Meitner pair. [hopefully I do not have to say all the catty things I know all of YOU are thinking… ;-)]

Shootouts and more shootouts

We’ve had a lot of shootouts lately. Many power cord shootouts. And we’ve started several EMM Labs shootouts.

More later, but here are the upshots:

*** ODIN power cord. Simply put we have a new favorite cable.

*** ODIN power cord versus ODIN interconnect – which is the biggest bang for the buck as your first cable? The short and sweet: In this case, on this system of EMM Labs CDSA, Audio Note Ongaku and Marten Coltranes] it was [kind of] the PC that was the biggest bang – but there is an explanation why the $11K PC beat the $16K IC.

First, the SOUND was better with the IC. But the MUSIC was better with the PC and we didn’t care that the sound wasn’t as good. The explanation? My hypothesis is that the Ongaku, the amp we put the PC on, is the great contributor to the musicality of the system and costs about 8X times what the CDSA player costs. So adding the ODIN PC to it just made that more musical. The ODIN IC, as expected, let way more sound from the CDSA get to the integrated amp – and the sound had more body, more information, etc. But, again, we didn’t care. On a different system, with perhaps a less dominating amp, the IC will likely dominate the PC even more and we would elect a different winner.

*** EMM Labs CDSA versus CDSD/DCC2 versus TSD1/DAC2 [versus red badge CDSD/DCC2]. In progress [but in this system, with the ODIN and the TDS1/DAC2, we heard revolutionary amounts of separation. Each instrument was clearly defined and you could easily follow just one instrument’s sound and its decay. Just like in reality. No, really. We have NEVER heard anything quite like it. It is addicting. This whole system has become addicting. It is so pleasing to the mind [so deep, so many complex musical passages revealed], and so pleasing to the heart [so pure and the decays last exactly as long as they are supposed to and the harmonics are so lovely]. Rarely has anything excelled at both – especially on such a small scale.].

Emm Labs: The TSD1 and DAC2

Here are some photos of the new EMM Labs TSD1 transport and DAC2 DAC we are taking to RMAF 2008 in a few weeks.

Here is the blurb sent to us which will fill you in on some of the particulars:

“The chassis is completely machined thick aluminum in gorgeous brushed silver with matching metal remote when bought as a set completely redone and retooled from the CES units so they look and feel a lot better and seamless.

The DAC2 is our next generation converter with a host of digital inputs and can be used EASILY with ANY digital source. It has Ed’s MFAST technology that allows it to completely get rid of source jitter and phase distortion inherent in all 2 or multibox systems and acquire audio seamlessly in milliseconds even from the most difficult sources like Satellite Radio, DVB, Computer systems, portable media players etc. It also has all of Ed’s prior technologies, MDAT up-conversion technology where incoming audio is up-sampled to 2X SACD (5.6Mhz) and Ed’s discrete custom built DA converters all built on composite aerospace EMMbed PCB circuit boards. Along with the regular I/O like AES, SPDIF, TOSLINK etc. it also has USB Audio port for connection directly to computers and music servers.

The TSD1 is has the built in MDAT up-converter and 2008 German drive plus it sports the new transport software and LCD screen. It also has the new single fiber EMM Link for interconnection between it and the DAC2.”

DAC2 MSRP is $9,500 US
TSD1 MSRP is $11,000 US

We can testify that when you look at them [and especially when you pick them up :-)] you can see that they are made with a thick aluminum chassis that feels very solid and robust.

First impressions, after about 3 whole hours(!) of playing [with :-)] them is that they are very lively like the CDSA but more so [through-out the entire note], that the notes are very well controlled throughout the entire note – something that neither analog nor digital has really contributed to in my experience [instead, we rely on uber amplifiers to do the best that can be done with the signal they are given], and a very black background [the honorable competition, and even the Emm Lab’s own CDSD/DCC2 pair to some lesser extent, seems to try and fill in the background with a lot of extra information – amplifying the quiet sounds so they do not get lost, or to please the listener with a sense of higher resolution – similar to the tipped up midrange on showroom speakers and tipped up contrast on showroom TVs? I don’t know but the digital revolution is still advancing at a rapid pace and this sounds like this will be de’rigeur in a few years. The feeling is that there is a lot more separation between the subtle notes].

But it has only been THREE HOURS. Right now we have to listen around the Cold New Player Effect – things will likely get even better if past experience [with new players] is any predictor of the future experience [improvements associated with broken-in players]. Already I think both Neli and I prefer this pair over the previous Emm Labs digital [and we preferred THAT over other digital we have heard – with the POSSIBLE exception of the Esoteric P-01/D-01/G-0s, which is much more expensive [at $60K+] and we would have to hear much more closely to get a feeling which is ‘better’, or just ‘different’. But this *is* the league EMM Labs is playing in – the best in the world.].

More in a few hundred hours or so. Or come to the show and hear for yourself 🙂


The TSD1 transport


The TSD1 transport turned on


The TSD1 rear panel


The DAC2


The DAC2 rear panel


The new remote


The new remote next to the remote that comes with the CDSD/DCC2. Not as wide, same thickness, and without volume controls… Both feel great in the hand

[unlike Sony XBR remotes – boy, my mute button is already squished in after 2 weeks of use. What a POS remote – and these are their top-of-the-line LCDs too].