Audio Note UK Answers – a new Yahoo group

.. and I quote:

“A new Yahoo Group – Audio Note UK Answers – has been started to provide current information and answers to questions regarding Audio Note UK products. The hope is that a global community of Audio Note customers, potential customers and the merely curious will wander through as if it were a coffee shop, asking and answering questions, checking on upcoming shows where they may hear Audio Note systems or special events, etc . . .”

It is very new.

But I expect it to be a nice quiet place where people can ask questions without feeling theatened by the often ‘unfriendly behavior’ that we see on that ‘crazy’ forum. Many (most) people we know were once patients of this institution but eventually checked themselves out of and are now permanent escapees. 🙂

Adagio progress report

The following was posted on Audiogon. Assuming it has not been deleted yet, you will find it here.

“Strenghts: The two things that stuck out for me was the depth of the soundstage which was simply amazing! The 3d effect was addictive! The second thing that struck me was the midrange which was smooth, realistic, and not distorted at all, even at ridiculous listening levels.

Weaknesses (or what I did not like): The ribbon tweeters to me sounded harsh and metallic. There was also a problem with the imaging which was probably due to the setup. Voices seemed too large in comparison to the othe instruments. I felt like I was listening to a giant singing 6 feet away from me. The speakers also did not disappear. I heard way too much music coming directly from the speakers themselves. The soundstage width was restricted to the physical location of the speakers. Again, this could be down to setup. Bass was also light but in a confined room I am sure it would sound better.

Misc: Even though I loved the nice finishes of the cabinet, I do not care for the overall look for the speakers. Also, when played at very loud volumes, I felt like the Adagios were straining. It sounded like a small speaker trying to sound loud. ”

It seems to me an honest and fair review of what Tboooe heard at the Acoustic Zen factory.

Taking these same points:

The soundstage depth is about average around here – but the competition is quite fierce, so yeah, great depth.

It is the stability and linearity and balanced nature of the ‘midrange’ that attracted us to these speakers – these speakers have a ‘mature’ sound, they don’t try to dazzle with a forward upper midrange or a boomy or overly tight bass – which most of the popular poop in this and most other price ranges do. In this case, by midrange I, at least, am referring to everything but the extreme highs and lows.

The ribbon tweeters do NOT sound harsh and metallic after they are broken in. In the first, oh, 100 hours they do indeed, however.

Voices being overly large? I think that is a setup issue like Tboooe conjectured – but we will have to listen for this ourselves [ and I am too lazy to step downstairs and do it now. Perhaps I will update this later…]

The speakers dissappear here really, really well. And in both rooms, in 3 very different locations.

Haven’t checked soundstage width…

Bass is not ‘light’ here at Audio Federation, in fact it is this ‘fullness’ that attacts many people to this speaker in this price range. There are many monitors and monitor-like speakers that sound quite OK in this price range whose bass varies – depending on setup: Audio Note, Starsound Caravelle, Marten Monk, Oskar Heil, etc. But this is the only decent speaker that tries to get down low enough, in enough different room positions, to be satisfying for people who want to feel their music as well as hear it.

Straining when played really loud? Yeah, that is a good way to put it. More or less I think that is the sound of the limitations of the speaker cabinet – on the similarly sized Audio Note AN-E SEC Silver Signature ($40K) and the Kharma Mini Exquisite ($45K – $55K) loudspeakers that we have here now, there is not this problem – just to show that it is not speaker size that is the limitation here.

As people know, we really do not listen carefully to equipment before it is fully broken in. The above was heard in casual listening. But enough was heard, both here and at shows, to know that this is one of those Great Deals that comes along every so often.

It has a sound (the Acoustic Zen sound – eschewing some sophistication and inner detail for a more natural dynamic and rounder harmonics, kind of like Zu Audio speakers but with a more linear, well-balanced top-to-bottom) and limitations do to keeping the price down (many of the components in the Audio Note speaker’s crossover EACH cost more than this speaker).

This is comparable in value and price/performance, in my opinion, with the Dunlavy SC4 and the original Von Schweikert VR4.

Those speakers are what every speaker under $12K should be measured against. And now we have another to make it three.

Showroom 3 – Acoustic Zen Adagio loudspeakers…

… also breaking in.

Showroom (show area) 3 now has thge Soundlab Ultimate 1 electrostatic loudspeakers as permanent residents and the Acoustic Zen Adagio as guests.

The Adagio in front of the Soundlab

Neli tells me there are a number of people who want to hear the Adagio’s in a larger room, so here they are for now. We still have to fuss with the positioning… and they might even end up against the long wall where we can, because they are front ported, try putting them from very close to the wall to out in the middle of the room.

The Adagio in front of the Soundlab
The Soundlab U1 really, really sounds nice in this system. Yeah, it is an expensive front end – let’s see, about $130K for a $32K speaker – but it makes that system sound quality on a par with some of the best systems we have heard, bar none. Not just in coherence and detail, which the Soundlabs always have, but involvement and suspense and emotionalty and naturalness. Magic? Can’t tell yet, with the show and all this breaking in we haven’t got a chance to just live with it for any length of time yet. It was the introduction of the M10 that really put this over the top.. and we found this out by accident, if you will remember, when we were just trying to break in the M10 at high gain (volumes) and so put it on the hard-to-drive Soundlabs.

The equipment rack for Showroom 3
The equipment rack for Showroom 3. We have the Emmlabs CDSD SE transport in front, Edge Signature One amps behind it, and on the HRS MXR equipment rack the Audio Note M10 preamp and its two large Galahad power supplies and the Emmlabs DCC2 SE DAC. Lots of Shunyata Anaconda power cords, Jorma Design No. 1 speaker cable, and Nordost Valhalla interconnects – and I think we have a Jorma ‘Prime’ interconnect in here too.

The equipment rack for Showroom 3
The equipment rack for Showroom 3. One of the Galahad power supplies is on the top whelf – it was the only way we could get 4 things on the MXR rack given that one of those things HAD to be the M10 (for the reasons of curiosity and because we didn’t want to have to step over those big boys every time we wanted to put a CD in the transport).

[No, your eyes do not deceive you, the Edge amps are indeed on the floor. One, they do not sound so bad there, this is not the first time they have visited the carpet. Second, we really do not have enough HRS M3 Isolation Bases to go around – we know we need them, we know we want them, we know we will get them, but for right now… it is on the carpet they go]

As far as how the Adagios are sounding at this point in their breakin process…. see next post.