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 		<title>Comment on The Last Few Weeks&#8230; by: Hans Bams</title>
		<link>http://audiofederation.com/blog/archives/288#comment-1100</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Mike,

you are absolutely correct! The CIAudio only has to show its virtues between 20 and (according to the manual) 600 Hz, a frequency spectrum with which D class amps can cope very well!! You're also correct with regard to the challenge to get a firm grip on the bass towers. The CIAudio's  are doing a good job sofar (still burning in), better than there predecessors. Difficulty indeed is to &quot;refind&quot; the delicate balance between the bass and the horns. Main cause of this is the slightly different input sensitivity of the both poweramps (Manleys 0.75 Vrms and CIAudio 1 Vrms). I use an external volumecontrol on the Manleys to adjust their output towards the CI's. This is a painstaking job, but rewarding. The bass is now fast, detailled, articulate and has lots of drive and slam. On a scale of 0 - 100, I'm at 90 in reaching the correct balance between bass and horns. Keep you both posted on this matter,

best regards, Hans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Mike,</p>
	<p>you are absolutely correct! The CIAudio only has to show its virtues between 20 and (according to the manual) 600 Hz, a frequency spectrum with which D class amps can cope very well!! You&#8217;re also correct with regard to the challenge to get a firm grip on the bass towers. The CIAudio&#8217;s  are doing a good job sofar (still burning in), better than there predecessors. Difficulty indeed is to &#8220;refind&#8221; the delicate balance between the bass and the horns. Main cause of this is the slightly different input sensitivity of the both poweramps (Manleys 0.75 Vrms and CIAudio 1 Vrms). I use an external volumecontrol on the Manleys to adjust their output towards the CI&#8217;s. This is a painstaking job, but rewarding. The bass is now fast, detailled, articulate and has lots of drive and slam. On a scale of 0 - 100, I&#8217;m at 90 in reaching the correct balance between bass and horns. Keep you both posted on this matter,</p>
	<p>best regards, Hans
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 		<title>Comment on The Last Few Weeks&#8230; by: Mike</title>
		<link>http://audiofederation.com/blog/archives/288#comment-1099</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey you two,

Putting the CIAudio on the bass towers of the Campanile only reveals its character below 700 Hz or so, if I remember correctly. It is those upper frequencies where the digital amps, all solid-state amps in fact, have their little troubles.

The bass towers on the Campaniles are defintiely a challenge - to tighten their response up as much as possible without messing with their delicate balance with repsect to the midrange horn - a balance which was so amazingly well crafted by the factory. ... Please let us know how it all works out!

Best regards (to you too, Neli :-) )
-Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey you two,</p>
	<p>Putting the CIAudio on the bass towers of the Campanile only reveals its character below 700 Hz or so, if I remember correctly. It is those upper frequencies where the digital amps, all solid-state amps in fact, have their little troubles.</p>
	<p>The bass towers on the Campaniles are defintiely a challenge - to tighten their response up as much as possible without messing with their delicate balance with repsect to the midrange horn - a balance which was so amazingly well crafted by the factory. &#8230; Please let us know how it all works out!</p>
	<p>Best regards (to you too, Neli <img src='http://audiofederation.com/blog/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
-Mike.
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 		<title>Comment on The Last Few Weeks&#8230; by: Hans Bams</title>
		<link>http://audiofederation.com/blog/archives/288#comment-1098</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Neli,

What you say about the Kharma's, is also true for the CI's. Lots of drive and control, which is necessary to control the woofers of the Campaniles. I have considered the Kharma's, but they don't have enough power to control the 8 woofers. The CI's have an output of 325 Watt in 4 Ohm. They also seem to match sonically very well with the big Manleys. It is funny though to see such little boxes besides the Manley &quot;giants&quot;. With no other amplifier I have  heard so much slam and drive in the bass of the Campaniles as with the CI's. I'm curious what the sound of the CI will be in a week or two because the burn-in time is about 300 hours. Keep you posted on this matter!!

Best regards, Hans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Neli,</p>
	<p>What you say about the Kharma&#8217;s, is also true for the CI&#8217;s. Lots of drive and control, which is necessary to control the woofers of the Campaniles. I have considered the Kharma&#8217;s, but they don&#8217;t have enough power to control the 8 woofers. The CI&#8217;s have an output of 325 Watt in 4 Ohm. They also seem to match sonically very well with the big Manleys. It is funny though to see such little boxes besides the Manley &#8220;giants&#8221;. With no other amplifier I have  heard so much slam and drive in the bass of the Campaniles as with the CI&#8217;s. I&#8217;m curious what the sound of the CI will be in a week or two because the burn-in time is about 300 hours. Keep you posted on this matter!!</p>
	<p>Best regards, Hans
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 		<title>Comment on The Last Few Weeks&#8230; by: Neli</title>
		<link>http://audiofederation.com/blog/archives/288#comment-1097</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Hans!

It's so nice to see you here on the 'blog. 

I have only heard the CIAudio at shows, so I can't really say anything definitive ... but the little Kharma amps are really nice amps, they're quiet and lively and not in the least aggressive, but they have drive and control -- they are the only of these little amps I really *like*.  I like them as an amplifier, regardless of the technology. Given your location in the world ... I really encourage you to give them a listen.

Best regards,
-neli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Hans!</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s so nice to see you here on the &#8216;blog. </p>
	<p>I have only heard the CIAudio at shows, so I can&#8217;t really say anything definitive &#8230; but the little Kharma amps are really nice amps, they&#8217;re quiet and lively and not in the least aggressive, but they have drive and control &#8212; they are the only of these little amps I really *like*.  I like them as an amplifier, regardless of the technology. Given your location in the world &#8230; I really encourage you to give them a listen.</p>
	<p>Best regards,<br />
-neli
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 		<title>Comment on The Last Few Weeks&#8230; by: Hans Bams</title>
		<link>http://audiofederation.com/blog/archives/288#comment-1096</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Neli and Mike,

how are you doing??
Funny to see that you're in Class D amps also!! I'm auditioning now the CIAudio D200 amps on the woofers of the Campaniles. I must say that they are very engaging amps. Maybe worthwhile to try for you??

Best regards, Hans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dear Neli and Mike,</p>
	<p>how are you doing??<br />
Funny to see that you&#8217;re in Class D amps also!! I&#8217;m auditioning now the CIAudio D200 amps on the woofers of the Campaniles. I must say that they are very engaging amps. Maybe worthwhile to try for you??</p>
	<p>Best regards, Hans
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